El Dia de Los Muertos; Day of the Dead; memento mori; Santa Muerte
An account of Day of the Dead traditions
Jovita Cauth; collected by Kellie Buckner; Emily Crumpton editing
Utah State University, Merrill Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Folklore Collection 008 Box 085-04-048-003
Utah State University
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Juan Pablo Lauriente
Alison Comish Thorne's Feminist Forum Award
Utah State University; Alison Comish Thorne; feminism; women's movement
The Feminist Forum at Utah State University recognized Alison Comish Thorne in 1975 for her hard work and dedication to advancing the status of women at the university.
Judith M. Gapp Janice Pearce
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Collection 216, Box 7, Folder 3.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives.
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Weeping Lady; Logan; Utah State University; cemetery; memento mori; folklore; death; legends
Judy and Pam Grenney; Emily Crumpton editing
Utah State University, Merrill Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Folklore Collection 008a, Group 07, Box 009a
Refugee children having a grand time in the Cache refugee garden, Logan, Utah, 2015.
Several families utilize the refugee garden in Cache Valley. The children in this photo are enjoying a day in the garden. The refugee garden provides a sense of community and access to fresh food for refugees. Image taken in 2015.
Julie Sheen
Original photograph belongs to Cache Refugee and Immigrant Connection
Several refugee gardeners in the process of early cultivation of the Cache refugee garden, Logan, UT, 2015.
Several families utilize the refugee garden in Cache Valley. In 2015, the garden's first successful growing season, 6 families worked in the garden. The refugee garden provides a sense of community and access to fresh food for refugees. Image taken in 2015.
Several refugee gardeners working in the Cache refugee garden, Logan, UT, 2015.
Several families utilize the refugee garden in Cache Valley. In 2015, 6 families worked in the garden. The refugee garden provides a sense of community and access to fresh food for refugees. Image taken in 2015.
Refugee children learning the ways of gardening, Logan, UT, 2015.
Refugee children playing in the Cache refugee garden, Logan, Utah.
Africa, refugee, camp
Julien Harneis
Iran, Junior Scholastic
Article about Iran in a Junior Scholastic magazine
Junior Scholastic
SD - Deluxe Barber Shop, Photo, Mobridge
Barbershop, Photo
Deluxe Barber Shop, 408 W. Grand Crossing, Mobridge, SD 57601
Justin
Barbershop, Business Card
Justin Loesch
BERKELEY, CA - SEPTEMBER 24: Protesters shout at each other during a free speech rally
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BERKELEY, CA - SEPTEMBER 24: Protesters shout at each other during a free speech rally with right wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos at U.C. Berkeley on September 24, 2017 in Berkeley, California. Hundreds of protesters came out to support and demonstrate against Milo Yiannopoulos as he held a free speech rally at U.C. Berkeley.
Justin Sullivan
http://time.com/4955245/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley-free-speech-week/
Justin Sullivan—Getty Images
USU; art; design; painting; concatenation; exhibit
Painting of a house and a geometrical design in the background, titled Morning Run, created by Justin Wheatley.
Justin Wheatley
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Logan, Utah
Outdoor Product; Catalog; 1935
K & W Rubber Corporation catalog, front cover, 1935
K & W Rubber Corporation
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections & Archives, Outdoor Recreation Products Catalog Collection (Book Collection 72, K-19, 1935)
Utah State University Libraries
Digital Initiatives Unit, Merrill-Cazier Library
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Outdoor Products; Catalog; K2 Telemark;
K2 Telemark catalog, front cover, 2001-2002
K2 Telemark
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections & Archives, Outdoor Recreation Products Catalog Collection (Book Collection 72, K-1, 2001-2002)
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K2 Telemark catalog, front cover, 2004-2005
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections & Archives, Outdoor Recreation Products Catalog Collection (Book Collection 72, K-1, 2004-2005)
Ka Mar
Refugee Camp
Clip from an interview with Ka Mar May 2015.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 65
A clip from an interview with Ka Mar May 2015
A clip from an interview with Ka Mar, a Burmese Muslim refugee.
Burmese Muslim Refugees
Interview with Ka Mar, a Burmese Muslim refugee on May 15, 2015. Also present, Ka Mar's mom, Khin Mar Cho, his wife and daughter. We are at their apartment in Logan, Utah.
Ka Mar, 1988
Dilg, Cami 1986
Giles, David 1986
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 62
Digitized by : Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library
Allred, Deanna, 1965
Har Be Bar, 1995-;
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Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project
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Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project Digital Collection
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Burma, Thailand
After the interview, Burmese translator Har Be Bar takes down names of those present, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Burmese translator Har Be Bar takes down names of those present at the interview. Maung Maung, her younger brother, came to the apartment after the interview was over. Seated on the left of Har Be Bar is Sa Da De, Ka Mar's wife, and to the right of Har Be Bar is Kin Mar Cho, Ka Mar's mother.
Ka Mar, 1988-;
Dilg, Cami, 1986-;
Giles, David, 1986-;
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 72
Allred, Deanna, 1965-;
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Ka Mar and wife Sa Da De and daughter Ma Se Ma, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Photograph of Ka Mar and wife Sa De Da and daughter Ma Se Ma in the front room of Ka Mar's apartment. We took several photos of of Ka Mar and his wife and daughter in this pose. Ma Se Ma decided to gesture in the way you see here for the photograph. There is no information what she means by this gesture. On the wall behind them is a Muslim religious poster.
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Ka Mar holds his daughter Ma Se Ma as he poses with one of several award certificates, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Ka Mar holds his daughter Ma Se Ma as he poses with one of several award certificates.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 67
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Ka Mar holds Thanaka while his daughter Ma Se Ma applies some Thanaka to her face, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Ka Mar holds Thanaka while his daughter Ma Se Ma applies some Thanaka to her face. I had asked Ka Mar what the designs were on the youth and his wife's face when we arrived at the apartment. The youth, including Ma Se Ma, had applied a swirl on each cheek, one on her forhead, and a dot on her nose. Ka Mar's wife, Sa De Da had a square on each cheek. Ka Mar brought out this Thanaka to try to describe it to us. Thanaka is used for beauty, to cool the skin, and some sources say as a sunscreen. I did not make this connection until we interviewed our translator Har Be Bar. Unfortunately the youth and adults wearing the Thanaka rubbed it off when they entered the house. Likely because they saw us and we, I would think, would be considered foreign to their community.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 68
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Kin Mar Cho's (Ka Mar's mother) Burmese clothing patterns, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Kin Mar Cho's (Ka Mar's mother) Burmese clothing patterns hung on the north wall of the living room, next to and above her sewing machine. East of Khin Mar Cho�s sewing machine there was a plastic basket, slightly visible here, with several different colors of cloth in it. In that corner, hanging on the doorknob of, what I think, was a closet door, was a plastic grocery bag filled completely with spools of thread.
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One of Ka Mar's several award certificates. The award reads: ""Westgate Park City Resort & Spa Awards this Certificate to: Ka Mar HouseKeeper Team Leader of the Month in recognition of valuable contribution to the Houskeeping Department,"" Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
One of Ka Mar's several award certificates. Ka Mar recieved this award when he and his family were living in Salt Lake City, Utah, before moving to Cache Valley, Logan, Utah. The award reads: ""Westgate Park City Resort & Spa Awards this Certificate to: Ka Mar HouseKeeper Team Leader of the Month in recognition of valuable contribution to the Houskeeping Department."" All the awards recieved by Ka Mar and his father Kaw Lay have been framed. Ka Mar's younger sister, Thu Za, is seen in the background of this photograph trying to avoid the camera.
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Photograph of Ka Mar's grandparents, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
This photograph of Ka Mar's grandparents hangs on the west wall of the front room in Ka Mar's apartment alongside a calendar, photographs, award certificates, and perhaps a religious motif. We did not find out the names of the grandparents.
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Ka Mar and wife Sa Da De and daughter Ma Se Ma, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015 (1 of 2)
Photograph of Ka Mar and wife Sa De Da and daughter Ma Se Ma in the front room of Ka Mar's apartment. On the wall behind them is a Muslim religious poster.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 59
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Ka Mar and wife Sa Da De and daughter Ma Se Ma, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015 (2 of 2)
Photograph of Ka Mar and wife Sa De Da and daughter Ma Se Ma in the front room of Ka Mar's apartment. Ma Se Ma is moving in her father's arms. On the wall behind them is a Muslim religious poster.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 60
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Ka Mar's daughter Ma Se Ma poses in front of her father Ka Mar and mother Sa Da De, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Ka Mar's daughter Ma Se Ma poses in front of her father Ka Mar and mother Sa Da De. Ma Se Ma is four years old. Her mother Sa Da De is seen here wearing the traditional htamein. Her father is holding his car keys in one of his hands.
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Ka Mar's interview for the Voices: Refugees in Cache Valley field school project concludes, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
Photograph of Ka Mar interview. This photograph was taken at the conclusion of Ka Mar's interview for the Voices: Refugees in Cache Valley field school project. Also present are David Giles (recordist), Deanna Allred (interviewer), Har Be Bar (translator), and Cami Dilg (photgrapher).
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Muslim religious poster hanging in Ka Mar's front room, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
On the south wall of Ka Mar's apartment there are two posters: one of Mecca; the other, pictured here, is religious in nature but I do not know the meaning. Many of the houses we visited had posters hung; some of them were the same or similar.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 63
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Poster depicting Mecca hanging in Ka Mar's front room, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015
On the south wall of Ka Mar's apartment there are two posters: one is eligious in nature but I do not know the meaning; the other pictured here, is of Mecca. Many of the houses we visited had posters hung; some of them were the same or similar.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 69
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West wall in Ka Mar's front room, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015 (1 of 2)
This is the west wall of the front room in Ka Mar's apartment. A calendar, photographs, award certificates, and perhaps a religious motif hang from the wall. Interesting to note is how high the objects are hung on the wall. The wall paper, made to look like wood, is peeling over the warped sheetrock beneath.
Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project, FOLK COLL 64
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West wall in Ka Mar's front room, Logan, Utah, May 15, 2015 (2 of 2)
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refugee camps
A clip from an Interview with Ka Sin, Burmese Muslim Refugee. 2015-05-17
Ka Sin
Burmese Muslim refugee; Family; Immigrant, Tradition, Cache Valley, Utah; Logan, Utah;
A clip from an interview with Ka Sin, Burmese Muslim Refugee. 17 May 2015
Interview with Ka Sin, Burmese Muslim Refugee. 2015-05-17
Ka Sin and his family live in a different apartment complex than our other interviewees. He works at JBS meat packing plant. His family includes his wife Ser Geda; daughter Kem Pu, 16 yrs; son Zat No 10 yrs; son Mo 20 yrs; and son Myo 14 yrs.
Ka Sin, 1967-;
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Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 1 CACHE VALLEY REFUGEE ORAL HISTORY PROJECT TRANSCRIPTION COVER SHEET Interviewee(s): Ka Sin Present: Deanna Allred, David Giles, Cami Dilg, Ka Sin, Har Be Bar, Kem Pu[?] (Ka Sin’s daughter), Zat No (Ka Sin’s son), Mo (Ka Sin’s son), Ser Geda (Ka Sin’s wife), Myo (Ka Sin’s son) Place of Interview: Ka Sin’s home, Logan, Utah Date of Interview: May 17, 2015 Language(s): Burmese Translation: Interviewer: Deanna Allred Interpreter: Har Be Bar Recordist: David Giles Photographer: Cami Dilg Recording Equipment: Tascam DR-100mk11 linear PCM recorder; Senal ENG-18RL broadcast-quality omnidirectional dynamic microphone Transcription Equipment: Express Scribe with PowerPlayer foot pedal. Transcribed by: Susan Gross, May 20, 2015 Transcript Proofed by: Brief Description of Contents: Ka Sin talks about his journey from Burma, to a Thailand refugee camp, to Japan, then New York, then California, and finally Utah. He talks about working and learning English in Salt Lake City, Utah, and then later moving to Logan, Utah. He talks about his life during the war in Burma and in the refugee camp in Thailand. He discusses his life in America, and the way his children are growing up here, versus the life they may have had in Burma. Reference: DA = Deanna Allred DAI = Deanna Allred’s words interpreted by translator KS = Ka Sin KSI = Ka Sin’s words interpreted by translator DG = David Giles DGI = David Giles’ words interpreted by translator KP = Kem Pu ZN = Zat No M = Mo Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 2 MY = Myo NOTE: [You will have to modify this as appropriate—whether using CommGap or in-person interpreter.] The interview was conducted with CommGap Interpretive Services; the interpreter joined the interview via a cell phone. False starts, pauses, or transitions in dialogue such as “uh” and starts and stops in conversations are not included in transcript. All additions and added information to transcript are noted with brackets. TAPE TRANSCRIPTION [Part 1 of 2 – 00:01] DA: Yeah, will you introduce who is here with us? I’d love them to stay. DAI: [Repeating question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: His daughter and then his youngest son. DA: Youngest son? KSI: Um-hmm. DA: [Speaking to Ka Sin’s daughter] And what is your name? KP: Kem Pu[?] DA: Kem Pu? How old are you? KP: I am 16. DA: [Speaking to Ka Sin’s son] And what is your name? ZN: Zat No. KS: Zat No. DA: Zat No – can you spell that? ZN: Z-A-T N-O. DA: N-O. DG: Okay; exactly like it sounds, actually. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 3 DA: And how old are you? ZN: Ten. DA: You’re ten. DG: [Speaking to Kem Pu] Okay; are you getting your driver’s license by chance? KP: Yeah. DA: Yeah? DG: Cool. DA: [Speaking to Kem Pu] What school do you go to? KP: Logan High. DA: Logan High? Good. My daughter went there for a little while. [Speaking to Zat No] And what school do you go to? ZN: Wilson. DA: Wilson? Yes. DG: Okay. DA: Okay, good. DG: Would it be okay if we closed the window? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] DA: It’s just the sound – for the sound. DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] DG: Okay. DA: Sorry; will that make it uncomfortable? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 4 KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Do you guys want him to open the fan? DG: Let’s try it. Yeah, I don’t think it will be a problem, but let’s try it. DGI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] DA: Okay. DG: Alright, so let’s begin the tag. DA: Okay. KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] DA: I’m going to look at Cami’s notes about this. I liked what you did there. [Soft talking in the background between field school students.] DG: Okay, so I think – DA: Okay. DG: These are the questions that you want. DA: I’ve got the questions here. Alright, my name is Deanna Allred. KS: Yes. DA: We are here at the home of Ka Sin, a Burmese Muslim refugee that we’re doing interview for the “Voices 2015: Refugees in Cache Valley” (here, in Logan). I’m also here with Har Be Bar (who is our translator), and David Giles (who is our recordist), and Cami Dilg (who will be taking pictures). We are also here with Ka Sin’s daughter and son – are you another son? ??: I’m his son, yeah. DA: And what’s your name? M: Mo. DA: Mo? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 5 DAI: Mo. DA: Okay; how old are you, Mo? M: Twenty. DA: Twenty? Okay. So, and I saw your wife here too? Yeah, your wife was here. And what’s her name? KS: Ser Geda. DA: Ser Geda? KS: S-E-R – KSI: S-E-R – DA: S-E-R? KS: G-E – DA: G-E? KS: D-A. DA: D-A? KS: Yeah. DA: And this is your wife? KS: Yeah. DA: Thank you for letting us come. I’m going to try to translate a little slower – as I’ve listened, some of it’s gone a little fast and we’ve not gotten it all. DAI: Um-hmm? DA: So I’ll try to just translate slower – just a couple sentences at a time – and then I think that will go a little better. DAI: Okay. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 6 DA: So you can explain to him that we will probably be going a couple sentences at a time. [03:36] DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] DA: And it is Sunday, May 17th, 2015. We have another son? KS: Yeah, Myo. DA: What’s your name? MY: Myo. DA: Myo? MY: Yeah. DA: How do you spell that? MY: M-Y-O. DA: And how old are you? MY: Fourteen. DA: Fourteen? You have a great family. KS: [Laughs] DAI: [Repeating statement in Burmese.] DA: Yeah, this is great. Okay, did I get all the tag? DG: I think so. DA: Okay. So we are just going to start the interview. What is your full name and birth year? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: K-A S-I-N. DA: Um-hmm. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 7 KS: Yeah. Birthday – December 18, 1967. DA: Fifty-seven? KS: Sixty. KSI: 1967. DA: Sixty-seven; okay, good. What languages do you speak? DAI: [Repeating question in Burmese.] KS: Burmese and Karen. KSI: Burmese and Karen. DA: And Karen? Good. Tell me about your family? DAI: [Repeating question in Burmese.] KS: Yeah. [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He has a total family of six people in the family: four childrens, and him and his wife. DA: Um-hmm. Describe for me your religious community, your ethnic community; describe for me what it is for you to be a Burmese Muslim? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Living here it’s the same, but the ethnic group and religious group is a little different. DA: It’s a little different? KSI: Yeah. DA: In what way? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: How do we like practice the religion. DA: Right, um-hmm. Is there a place where you can go to practice your religion? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 8 DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Here they have it, but it’s a different language – DA: Oh, right. KSI: But in Salt Lake they do have it in the same language. KS: Yeah. DA: In Salt Lake? KSI: Yeah. DA: Okay. Tell me about Burma? You were born in Burma? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: What would you like to know about Burma? DA: Is it hot? Is it beautiful? KS: Ah, yeah. KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [07:28] KSI: There are three seasons – DA: Um-hmm. KSI: Yeah, summer, rainy, and foggy. DA: Summer, rain and foggy – that’s good. We haven’t heard that before. How long did you live there? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 9 KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: Like 21 years. DA: Uh-huh? Twenty-one years? KS: Maybe 25 year. DA: Maybe 25; yes? Why did you leave? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: It’s hard to live because there are civil wars going around, and they are like ethnic groups (like Karen group) that didn’t get along with – DA: That didn’t get along with the government? KS: Yeah. DA: Or each other? KSI: Yeah, with the government, with the soldiers, and with the Karen ethnic group. DA: Okay, okay. So what was that experience like – leaving Burma? What was that like to leave your country, leave your home? DAI: [Repeating question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He felt very bad, like because at first he had some educations in the city, and then he had to move because in Burma there are all still civil war. He felt very bad. DA: Yeah, I’m sure; I’m sure. Where did you relocate first? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: At first Burma to Thailand refugee camp. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 10 DA: Yeah. And then where? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He relocated first in the Thai city for about three years and it did not work out, so he had to move to a refugee camp. DA: Um-hmm, okay. What was your experience like in the refugee camp? [11:07] DAI: [Repeating question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: They are like – KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: A lot of different peoples – DA: Um-hmm? KSI: And different situation – like sometimes they are same level. DA: Yeah. Describe to me what you ate (the food), what was the medical care like? If you got sick, what would happen? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: They gave free food from rice, oil, salt, and they don’t do meat or other stuff – because he also want to eat those meat – DA: Yeah. But there wasn’t any? KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: He had to find a way – DA: To get food? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 11 KS: Yeah. KSI: All the medical care out there are free. DA: Was it easy to get to? Was it close? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: It’s not that easy to go to the hospital because no transportation – DA: Right. KSI: I have to walk. DA: And it was big – it was a ways away? KSI: Um-hmm. DA: Yeah. KSI: Like 15 minutes. DA: Yeah. Describe your work and school, there in the refugee camp, for you. DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: For the school, there is no school for an adult (like him). And then a job – he had to go outside of the camp and work for it. DA: Um-hmm. Tell me what your life was day-to-day; so you would get up about what time? You would eat breakfast, or – tell me what a typical day was like for you. DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He would wake up like early in the morning (like four) – DA: Um-hmm? And then that’s – what time would you go to bed at night? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 12 KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Like nine to ten. DA: Yeah, yeah; okay. What did you do for work in the camp? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [15:15] KSI: He help with the road – DA: Okay? KSI: Fix the road, and also the stables[?] – DA: Okay. Do you still get up at four? KS: Huh? DA: Do you still get up so early? DAI: Now? DA: Yeah. DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Sometimes; and sometimes earlier than that. DA: Really? DG: Wow. DA: Tell me about the holidays (or the celebrations) that you celebrated in the camp? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 13 KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah. He wants to talk about the Eid. DA: Uh-huh, yes? KSI: In the morning he will wake up and go to mosque and pray, and then he will find new clothes for his children to wear. DA: Um-hmm. Someone else had said you needed a new outfit for Eid, is that right? KSI: Um-hmm, yeah. DA: Yeah. Okay, what was the government like – how did the government behave with the refugees? What was the climate there? Was it helpful? Was it combative? How helpful was the government when you were in the refugee camp? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] DA: This would have been Thailand I guess, yeah. KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, he don’t know about the government because he don’t see it; but there is a sharing[?] group that helped. And then sometimes they are good, sometimes they are very bad peoples. If you want to go out and work, they close the gate – they never let him go out. And then he would find a way to get out from the gate and then go find job. And then once he came back the soldier will stop him and then take some money. KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] DA: Why wouldn’t they want you to leave to go work? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: They thought that they already gave free food to the refugees, and then they thought that it’s enough for them. DA: Rice, but no meat? KSI: Yeah. DA: Was enough? Okay. Did you feel safe in the camp? Did you feel safe for you, and safe for your family? Was there safety there? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 14 DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [20:45] KSI: It’s not safe because the refugee camp in Burma – it’s very close; sometimes the Burmese government will come and shoot and burn their houses. DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm; we’ve heard that story before, yeah. KSI: They want control the camps – DA: Yeah, and it was very dangerous. KSI: Um-hmm. DA: Yeah. How did you learn about the U.S. refugee program? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: There are a group that would take care of the camp that would come and let them know – like, “You can go register for the American, for Denmark, for Australia.” And then he – yeah, from there he come here. DA: Okay. Who helped you apply? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Thai also helped, he don’t know exactly – DA: Um-hmm? KSI: Yeah, Thai – that group also help – it’s called like OPE – DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 15 KSI: OPE. DA: Tell me about coming to the U.S. – I’m sure that was a lot – very emotional – to leave; I’m sure it was scary. Tell me about when you came to the U.S. – where did you come first? What was that first day like? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [23:50] KSI: It’s very emotional because totally like different people. In the camp, like people are not like human [laughs]. DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm. KSI: Yeah, because they are all dirty. DA: Um-hmm, yeah. Where did you first land? Where did you first come? Where was your first stop here? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: First, Thai, Bangkok (bigger city) – DA: Yeah. KSI: And then to – where was it? KS: Japan. KSI: To Japan, and to New York, to California, and then to Salt Lake. DA: Did you live in Salt Lake for awhile at first, or did you come right to Logan? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He was in Salt Lake about one year – DA: Um-hmm? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 16 KSI: And then he also work at DI. His wife work as a babysitter to other people houses. DA: Um-hmm, good; good. So if you worked at the DI, did you get help from any churches or any other organizations in the U.S.? And what about – what was helpful, what wasn’t helpful about your assistance? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: The church helped – did the most. DA: How could that be improved? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] DA: What improvements could we make? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: DI help a lot with teaching English. He can only work for a year, and for the improvement – it’s not – he don’t need that much improvement because he think that it’s kind of enough. DA: It was enough? Okay; that’s good to know. How long have you lived here, in Logan? [27:44] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: About six years. DA: Yeah? KS: Yeah. DA: What do you do here? KS: [Responding in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 17 KSI: He work at Miller. DA: At Miller? Um-hmm. KS: Yeah. DA: What is it like for you and your family to live here, in Logan? Is it a good place, you know, do you feel accepted by the community? Do you feel the schools are good and helpful? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Compared to the camp it’s a very good place here; the community is also good – he can make friends easily. DA: Um-hmm. Do you like working at Miller’s? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] DA: Is that a good thing? KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He can’t say, because he don’t know if he like or not because he have to work. DA: Yeah, you have to work – it doesn’t matter if he likes it or not – KSI: Yeah. DA: Yeah, that makes sense. What would make you feel more at home here, in Logan, for your family and for you? DAI: What was that question again? DA: What would make him feel more at home here, in Logan? KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 18 KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Now he don’t feel like this is his home because he is just – only him working, and then he have a lot of children. DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm. So he does feel like this is his home, or he doesn’t? KSI: He doesn’t. DA: He doesn’t? Why? What could we do – what would need to change for him to feel at home? Or where would he feel at home? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Government help him, but he know that he have to work for himself. And also, in the future, his son and wife maybe if they could help him work, so that way he could buy a house – DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm. Is there anything specific – like would it be helpful if there were more cultural events? Does he feel like he has a community here that assists him and helps him, you know, if he has to go to the grocery store or get gas, or whatever – you know, is there anything that we can do to help him feel more at home? Or is it just a language barrier, you know? I mean, what sorts of things would help him feel more at home? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] [32:26] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, he feel like – yeah, if they would help he would feel like he is part of the community. DA: Okay, okay; great. Tell me what is the difference between your home here, and your home in the refugee camp? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: It’s a big difference as like brown and the sky. DA: Um-hmm, um-hmm. Do you have a good experience with your landlord? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 19 DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, he has a good experience. If he need help he can call them – DA: And they’re very helpful? KSI: Yeah, they are. DA: That’s good; that’s good to know. What would you like the people of Logan to know about you? And then what would you like them to know about your family? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Like to let everyone know he don’t have much time – DA: Um-hmm? KSI: And then for his kids – like their friends, they could tell by themselves. DA: If you had more time, what would you want to do? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [35:48] KSI: Once he was younger, he always interested in English, he always want to like, know. And now if he have time, he would like to take classes. DA: Learn English? KSI: Yeah. DA: If they came to Miller’s at lunch hour a couple of days a week and taught English, would you be able to go to those English classes? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 20 KSI: At Miller, there is no time because he only get 30 minutes of lunch time – DA: Oh. KSI: And then after that he have to go to use the restroom. DA: Yeah, yeah – just take care of yourself. KS: Yeah. KSI: Yeah. DA: Um-hmm. That makes sense. Would you like to go back to Burma? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Well he would like to go back because he has parents – his father (who is unhealthy), but he cannot go back now: his childrens are still young, and money problems. DA: Um-hmm. Can you communicate with your father? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, he can communicate; and he also send like $100-200 a year. DA: Um-hmm, to them; does it help? KSI: Yeah. DA: It helps them? Do you send pictures to each other? You know, does your father know what your family looks like in pictures? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: There was a friend who went back to Burma, and then he send one picture, and now he don’t know how to send it. DA: Um-hmm; because he’s not there anymore? KSI: Yeah. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 21 DA: What are you most proud of? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [39:35] KSI: He is very proud of his childrens that come here and live their life; he can’t imagine like, seeing his childrens, like in the camp working in the jungle. DA: Um-hmm, yeah. What are your dreams for your future, and the future of your family? What are your dreams and what’s the dreams for your family? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He don’t have his own dreams for himself, but he do have a dreams for his childrens to like grow up and get better jobs (not like him). He would like to buy a house here for his family. DA: Um-hmm, yeah. That’s good. Is there anything that I haven’t asked, that you would like me to know? Are there any other questions; is there anything you want me to know that I haven’t asked? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: If you like, he can talk about his experience more. DA: Yeah, yeah; I would like to hear more about your experiences. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 22 DAI: [Repeating statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [43:27] KSI: In Burma, in the city, he lived with his family there (five people in the family) – [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He is the middle one. When he was younger he don’t have to do any work, and then when he get older he had to work. And then his older brother, like somehow with the soldier, got to refugee camp. DA: So where is his brother now? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Still in Thailand. DA: Still in Thailand? KSI: Oh no, Burma. DA: In Burma? So not in the refugee camp? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: No. DA: No? Okay. That’s all of my questions. David or Cami, do you have any questions? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 23 DG: Yes, I did. Let me see. So you said that when you first left Burma you tried to move to a city in Thailand? Can you tell us a little more about that, and what that was like trying to live in a city? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: It’s not in the big city; it’s just like in the kind of city in the jungle, so like a lot of creatures. DG: Okay. So why did you leave the city? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: There was only three months of work in a year, so it’s not enough. And then he cannot go back to Burma, so he had to leave. DA: Go back. DG: Okay. DA: Do you talk about this much with your kids – about your experiences in Burma? Do they know? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He did not talk about it because he don’t want his childrens feel like sorry or feel bad, and then feel fear. DA: Um-hmm. DG: Now just one more question (for me): you mentioned that you were having a hard time sending pictures to your family? Do you need help figuring out how to do that, or is there some kind of problem just getting it to your family? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 24 KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [47:30] KSI: Yeah, he would need help with it. DA: Okay. Does your father have a computer? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: No. DG: Okay, yeah; I know how to like send pictures through email, but if he doesn’t have a computer, that’s going to be difficult. DA: Um-hmm, yeah. DGI: [Repeating statement in Burmese.] DG: If you like, I can show you how to do that when we’re finished today. DGI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [Laughs] KSI: Well they don’t even have computers, so – DA: He doesn’t have a computer, so it wouldn’t help? KS: [Responding in Burmese.] DG: Well I do know that if you can send him a letter, I know you can take your photos to like, I think Wal-Mart with print them out for you, so you can you know, just put them in a letter and mail them. I haven’t had to do that in a long time, but I think Wal-Mart would be able to help. CD: I think it’s more of a problem of a physical address getting it – DG: Ah. CD: To him. DA: Yeah. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 25 DG: Okay, I missed that detail. DGI: Yeah. [Laughs] [Repeating statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] DA: Cami, did you have any questions? CD: Yes, I’m going to move a little bit closer to the microphone. We’ve interviewed some other people that were also in the refugee camp, and they mentioned (like you did) the need to obtain new clothing for Eid. I’m wondering where you would get the new clothing from? CDI: In the camp? CD: Yeah, to celebrate. Yes, in the camp. CDI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He had to find money earlier, yeah, and then he would buy it for them. CD: And would the clothing be purchased outside of the camp, or inside the camp? CDI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Inside of the camp. Inside of the camp. CD: I wasn’t sure, maybe you picked up on this – are both of your parents alive, and they are still in the camp, or just your father? CDI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: They are both alive, but not in the camp – in Burma. DA: In Burma; and it’s hard to get the things to Burma. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 26 CD: So you have family members still in Burma – are they more safe or less safe than if they were in the refugee camp? [50:53] CDI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: They don’t have to worry about their lives; because they are old, when the civil war is coming the soldier won’t take them because they cannot work anymore. DA: So they’re older – KSI: Yeah. DA: And so they’re safer? KSI: Um-hmm, they’re safer. DG: That’s a terrible way to be safe. DA: Um-hmm. DG: I have just one more question. When you left your home in Burma, and then when you left the camps, did you have any of your children with you at that time? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: When he come to Thailand, he had to walk like three days and three night. He is not married yet; he got married in Thai camp. DA: In Thai camp. KSI: Um-hmm. So once he leave Thailand with his children. DG: What was that like, having to move to a new place with little kids? DGI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: It’s not that hard, he just want like all together safe, and get whatever he want to do. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 27 DG: Okay. Those are all the questions I have. DA: Do your children participate at school in other things? You know, do you go to the school to the things that they’re active in? DAI: Here? DA: Yeah, here in Logan? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, he don’t participate, but when his children still go to school he force them to go to school. And then only his wife participate in like parent-teacher conferences – DA: Conferences; yeah, that makes sense. Do you like American food? [54:29] KS: Hmm? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] [Laughing] KSI: He like hamburger – DA: A hamburger? KSI: But it’s kind of expensive for him. DA: It is expensive; it is expensive, yeah. KS: The pizza a lot. KSI: Pizza – KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: He says there it’s less expensive: he can buy a box and they’re whole family can eat. DA: Yeah, pizza – everybody loves pizza! [Laughter] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 28 KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: If he only have to eat American food, it will be more expensive – DA: Yeah, yeah. Do you grocery shop in Salt Lake, like most of your community does? Do you have to go to Salt Lake to get your groceries? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah. KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Like two months. DA: Yeah, yeah; where is that grocery store? KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: He bought rice here, and in Salt Lake – I don’t even know the address – DA: Yeah? KSI: Like Redwood Road. DA: What’s the name of the store? KSI: There are like Cambodian store – DA: Cambodian store? KS: Chinese. KSI: Pakistan and Chinese, I think. DA: Yeah. I’m sorry you have to go so far. DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Well he had to go buy like half of the food over there, and then half of the food here. DA: Here? Where do you like to shop here? Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 29 DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Like Smith’s. DA: Smith’s – that’s where we all go, yeah. [Laughter] Good; good. I don’t know that I have any more questions. You have been very delightful. Your family is beautiful. DG: Thank you. DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: Thanks. DA: So we just have some forms to sign. Oh – DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] DA: This just says we can use the interview for the presentation. DAI: Oh, this is already signed. DA: Oh yeah, yeah; sorry. Yeah, I can’t give you that one [laughs]. KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] DA: Yeah; this just says that we can use the recording: it will be stored at Utah State University. And then do you mind if we take pictures? DAI: [Repeating the question in Burmese.] [57:58] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 30 KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah, you can take pictures. KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] KSI: [Responding in Burmese.] DG: And we do need you to fill out all the blanks, and we need to talk about that last one a little bit – so when you’re done with the rest, we’ll talk about it. [Background discussion between the folks present; both in English and Burmese.] Okay, do we want to end the tape? DA: So we’re just making sure we have consent to use the audio tape and the pictures in the Special Collections, and he understands. DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: Yeah. DA: Yep. KSI: [Speaking in Burmese.] KS: [Speaking in Burmese.] DA: Oh, we don’t need that one. [Discussion between Ka Sin and translator in Burmese.] KSI: Is it in English? [More discussion between Ka Sin and translator in Burmese.] KSI: I can’t read Burmese [laughs]. DG: Oh, you can’t? KSI: I can’t. Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 31 DA: It’s beautiful; I mean, look how pretty it is. Do your children – do you read Burmese? Do you speak much Burmese? [Discussion between Ka Sin and translator in Burmese as they fill out the information and release forms.] CD: I’m just going to take a few photos to make sure that the light is okay, if that’s alright? DG: And email, if you have one. DGI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] KSI: No, he doesn’t have email, so – KS: Is that finished? DG: That last one is – I would love if you could translate for me – that last blank is restrictions: just if there is something you don’t want us to do, you can write it there. DGI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] DG: So if you don’t want us to share your name, or share your photo, or something like that. DGI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] KS: [Responding in Burmese.] DA: Okay, this is the celebration – I know it’s in English, but maybe your kids could translate that for you. This is what – thank you – this is where we will be showing the photos and the presentation that we put together for the community. DAI: [Repeating the statement in Burmese.] [End part 1 of 2 – 60:02] [Part 2 of 2 – 00:01] KS: If he is, he will come. DA: Okay, good. Thank you. [More background discussion with the folks present.] Cache Valley Refugee Oral History Project: Ka Sin Page 32 [Speaking to Ka Sin’s child] So will you be a senior next year, or a junior? A senior? And how do you like Harry Potter? ZN: It’s a great story. DA: It’s a great story; yeah, it’s my favorite [laughs]. CD: You don’t mind if I take some photos? DG: Oh, the recording is still going. DA: The recording needs to – yeah, we’re done with the recording. Thank you. DG: Alright, we are done with the interview. [End Part 2 of 2 – 00:50]
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Ka Sin during his interview, May 17, 2015
Ka Sin signs a release form to Utah State University for the audio and visual material gathered during our interview. Deanna Allred, the interviewer, looks on, while Har Be Bar, the translator, goes through an English version of the release form. Also present are Ka Sin's daughter Pan Phue, and his youngest son Zat No.
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Ka Sin and his children with his interviewers, May 17, 2015
Ka Sin's interview concludes for the Voices: Refugees In Cache Valley field school project. He is joined by two of his four children. Deanna Allred, the interviewer, looks on, as does David Giles, the recordist. Also present are Har Be Bar, the translator, Ka Sin's daughter Pan Phue, and his youngest son Zat No.
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Ka Sin smiles. This photograph was taken in Ka Sin's front room after the conclusion of the iterview. Present in the background are Ka Sin's daughter Pan Phue, his youngest son Zat No, and Har Be Bar, the translator.
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Ka Sin's interview group packing away the equipment, May 17, 2015
Ka Sin's interview concludes for the Voices: Refugees In Cache Valley field school project. Also present are Deanna Allred (interviewer), David Giles (recordist), Har Be Bar (translator), and Ka Sin's youngest son Zat No. Har Be Bar is visiting with Zat No in this photograph; the interviewer and recordist are packing up the recording equipment. On the east wall of the front room you can see a map of the United States, a map of Utah, a poster of the Utah State University men's basketball team, and a Utah State University women's basketball team (signed by the players). You can see part of the south side of the front room. It is furnished with a Television, DVD and VHS player, a Nintendo 64, Video games and DVDs, the complete set of Harry Potter books (Zat No's), a computer with webcam, and a face clock and framed image above the face clock. There are two windows in the front room, one of which is visible here, thus there is more light in the room. There are also a couple potted plants on this side of the room. Visible, too, is the plastic, floral patterned mat that is in every Burmese Muslim home.
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Ka Sin talking with translator Har Be Bar while interviewers pack away equipment, May 17, 2015
Ka Sin's interview concludes for the Voices: Refugees In Cache Valley field school project. Also present are Deanna Allred (interviewer), David Giles (recordist), Har Be Bar (translator), Ka Sin's daugher Pan Phu wearing htamein, and Ka Sin's youngest son Zat No. Har Be Bar is visiting with Zat No in this photograph, while Ka Sin and Pan Phu listen; the interviewer and recordist are packing up the recording equipment. On the east wall of the front room you can see a map of the United States, a map of Utah, a poster of the Utah State University men's basketball team, and a Utah State University women's basketball team (signed by the players). There are also some certificates, papers, and photographs. You can also see part of the south side of the front room. It is furnished with a Television, DVD and VHS player, a Nintendo 64, Video games and DVDs, the complete set of Harry Potter books (Zat No's), a computer with webcam, and a face clock and framed (perhaps religious) image above the face clock. There are two windows in the front room, one of which is visible here, thus there is more light in the room. There are also a couple potted plants on this side of the room. There is a toy vehicle next to Pan Phue. Visible, too, is the plastic, floral patterned mat that is in every Burmese Muslim home.
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